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4:05 pm
November 9, 2023


garyz

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Here is what you get when you try to make contact with support help at Lucky 18 support:

 

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4:19 pm
November 9, 2023


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Hi garyz,

 

We seem to have been receiving the same problems as you. We can't seem to get in touch with any of the personnel at Lucky 18 Casino. We do not recommend that you or any of our members continue or start playing at that online casino.

Roger Williams

CasinoDeal Team

4:33 pm
November 9, 2023


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Post edited 4:34 pm – November 9, 2023 by garyz


Sage advice…..thanks Steve! 

 

Several days ago I did get a response from a 'chat' person….I was told that they had been down because of a fire in one of their servers….uh huh…..they're either broke or they needed my money (and others) to pay for the owner's yacht…..ladies of the night….and, perhaps, a brother-in-law's dental work…

 

There are Nigerian scammers, Somalian pirates…and Lucky 18 owners..all issue of the same virulent, diseased womb…

6:00 pm
November 9, 2023


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Hey garyz we will continue to try to reach them and get this situation resolved! I know this isn't what you really want to hear but at this point that's all we really could do because they seem almost impossible to reach!

Steve Russels

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11:13 pm
November 9, 2023


garyz

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Hello Steve–I fully understand….I don't think the situation is going to change. Apparently there are no regulatory agencies that monitor online casinos and that is something that should be addressed…by the online gaming industry…that would be gambling portals, honest casinos that do not want to be tarnished by thieving rogue casinos…and select players should also  be involved in this process….

Eventually the U.S. will make online gaming legitimate and, if gambling entities outside the U.S. want a piece of the huge action potentially derived from this country, they will have to clean up the industry…apart from non payment the RTG software at some casinos is transparently shouting 'we cheat'….I am speaking of BJ software that any experienced player can document and prove that the RNG (if one actually exists at these offending casinos) is manipulated (and I have theories as to how it is done) to insure that the player can win…but he must stop playing at an unknown strategic moment and cashin….or he/she will go down in flames….

 

Reasons to buy our software!

Want to make money? You need to own an online casino! Our software will entertain your players while padding your pockets with $$$$$$. The latter of course is guaranteed and the former will depend on the common sense understanding of the player. 

You are the entrepreneur!  You are smart and savvy. And you are unencumbered! Encumbrance is the key to riches! Guess who is encumbered? You are so astute! Yes, the players are encumbered. 

What form does their encumbrance take? As part of our above guarantee to line your pockets you must never divulge what I am about to tell you! We are only willing to share this information because . . . because . . . yes, because ‘you are the entrepreneur and you are smart and savvy, and of course, a potential buyer of our software! 

The players, your source of immense wealth, turn to the online gaming industry for entertainment; an industry they know can be easily orchestrated to insure that you will become a member of the nouveau riche and they, sadly or not so sadly, will become poorer. This is one part of a formula that, when complete, will insure that you become rich while entertaining the player, the encumbered player! 

Yes, I am remiss! I have not told you, as promised, what form that encumbrance assumes in the misguided, ill informed and flawed players that will create your bundles of cash! 

Here it is! Are you ready? 

Players want to lose!  You don’t believe me, do you! You . . .don’t  . . . believe . . . me? 

It is true! 

Proof? You want proof! And if we provide it will you then elect to step into the shoes of a potentially nouveau riche, smart and savvy casino owner and buy our software? Of course you will! 

Reason! Common sense! You have them or you would not be reading these words! I am confident of that! You, my potential buyer, are a winner! I know it! 

So, here it is. With just a miniscule amount of research you will discover that there are well over 1000 online casinos wheeling and dealing out there in cyberspace. All of these casinos have ample numbers of players to insure their continued existence! Each casino has hundreds and hundreds of players. Some of them have thousands of players! Each player knows going in that his or her chances of winning are challenged in the same way as their ability to squeeze themselves through the eye of a needle! 

Now, am I saying that we orchestrate the software to . . . oh, God, can I say it . . . cheat the player? No! No! I am not saying that! But, consider, consider . . .we could easily do it! Easily . .  

That word ‘consider’ used just above, can reveal your path to mucho dinero! 

We’ll use Blackjack as just one example of a game that will allow you to accumulate big bucks! There is a basic strategy used by most Blackjack players.   

As a way to demonstrate how easily we could manipulate the software to assure that you, the house, will win, ahem…..not saying that we do it, but we could. Here is the example: player is dealt a face card and a five equaling 15. The dealer’s up card is a 7, 8, 9, Ace or ten. The player, according to accepted Basic Strategy, will always elect to take a card. Here is the possible software orchestration! This is where you, the entrepreneur, savvy and smart, need to pay special attention! 

Is it possible for a programmer to write software code that will allow, in the case described above, the issuance of a ‘break’ card to the player . . . every time? Of course it is possible! Would we sell software that was orchestrated . . . it isn’t important for you to consider ‘if we do’ sell such house friendly software! It is important for you to know that . . . we could! 

Possessed of the ability to insure that our software could produce great wealth, would we orchestrate our code to eliminate the possibility of loss? Would we? Hmmmmm……. 

Now, back to that encumbrance thing! Ask yourself why a player would play online knowing that even the possibility of software orchestration exists? There is but one answer . . . he or she expects to lose! 

And you, my entrepreneurial friend, with the astute purchase of our software, can be the casino owner granting them the fulfillment of their expectations! 

Now, use your smart, savvy acutely aware faculties in a simple analysis of this effort on our part to enamor you of our software!

 

And ask yourself, would we sell you orchestrated software?

10:26 am
November 16, 2023


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Post edited 10:27 am – November 16, 2023 by RogerWill


Hi Garyz,

I would like to start by thanking you for bringing all of these great arguments up. It will help shed some light on many things that most online casino players aren't aware of. Especially for the US online casino players, there are a few things that they should take note of.

As most of you are already aware of, back in 2006, the Unlawful Gambling Internet Enforcement Act of 2006 outlawed any bank to process online gambling payments. This is both for deposits and withdrawals. So whenever a US player places a withdrawal, the online casino issues a payment via an American bank and sometimes, the funds may be held for an undetermined amount of time.

That's where we come in, we make sure that any and all online casino on our website accepting US players respect the time frames and promises of withdrawal advertised on their website.

As for the software being rogue, all licensed online casinos have been approved legit and fair by the TST. Who is the TST? They are a completely independent company that test the Random Number Generators (RNG) of the online casino's software. If it passes all of its tests, the online casino gets approved legit, receives the TST license, and receives a stamp of approval that is usually advertised on the homepage.

On the other hand, if a online casino isn't legit and approved of fair gaming, the TST will not license that online casino which will result in him not having the stamp of approval. You then know to avoid that specific online casino since it is most likely to be a rogue online casino.

These are the exact reasons why CasinoDeal was created! In order for online casino players to all come together and unite to share and educate themselves on present and past issues. This puts all of our members aware of which online casino are rogue and which are not. Additionally, the bigger the community gets, the more power we will have against these rogue online casinos.

Roger Williams

CasinoDeal Team

2:17 am
November 18, 2023


garyz

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Post edited 2:18 am – November 18, 2023 by garyz


 Who is the TST? They are a completely independent company that test the Random Number Generators (RNG) of the online casino's software.

If it passes all of its tests, the online casino gets approved legit, receives the TST license, and receives a stamp of approval that is usually advertised on the homepage.

Hello Roger–I am not new to online gaming and I am not new to the process of questioning all facits of online gaming. In 2003 I wrote sixty plus columns for a group of gambling portals owned by MediaSoft. Many of those columns were critical of the unregulated online gaming industry.

I am not saying that all online casinos are crooked nor does 'reasons to buy our software' say that all online casinos are crooked. But I have played at RTG casinos and, while winning, tracked multiple series of BJ hands that could not possibly have been generated from a legitimate RNG.

Support people say in definitive terms….'our software is unassailable, absolutely beyond reproach'….and I would ask them one simple question….'how do you know? Did you write the software?…'

Also, any programmer can duplicate a software program and make one or two small changes…and suddenly that software guarantees a considerably higher winning percentage than the original….

We, soooooo want to believe the people who tell us lies…..and we do believe them, 'be patient Gary, our Accounts department is on this….you'll be paid shortly'….Gary our RNG is tested on a frequent basis and the integrity of our testing company and the integrity of our executives ….of the highest level….

Let's not be disingenuous, some are honest and some are not….and the temptation to steal, as it states in 'Reasons to Buy Our Software', can be virtually irresistible.

Just for fun allow this one question….give a detailed report on the last time TST caught a casino cheating….and tell me what ultimately happened to the cheaters…did they go to jail….were they thrown out of the country where they were licensed….did the online gaming industry go after them legally…surely, TST would have given such a case immense publicity…one would think…

One more question…using Blackjack RTG software…why is the dealer's second card always 'down'….my guess is the denomination of that card is not determined until the total of the player's hand has been determined….thereby dictating what the dealer needs to win the hand….and the software provides the needed cards….so, Roger, in my eyes some cheat and some don't….I appreciate your comments…but I am a bit jaded…

10:15 am
November 23, 2023


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Hi Garyz,

 

It is true that the online casino owners never get any real consequences on their actions. Mainly, because there is nobody to turn to in this case. Legally, there is very little that something can be done against these online casino giants.

 

That is where CasinoDeal comes in! If we are able to grow a very large community of players, we will gain a lot of power and will be able to use it to our community's advantage. Pretty much just like what Facebook became! The truth of the matter is that the bigger our community gets, the more power we will have against these rogue online casinos.

 

However, you can rest assured that if you join an online casino through CD, you will be guaranteed to have a very smooth and comfortable online gaming experience.

Roger Williams

CasinoDeal Team

2:27 pm
November 23, 2023


garyz

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Hello Roger–thank you for your reply. You and Casino Deal are well meaning and I'm sure multiple players are in your debt.

However, if you will read over your reply you will have read an eloquent reason why no one (zero) should ever play at any unregulated online casino (and you state plainly in your reply that 'regulation does not exist'…the temptation to cheat as it states in 'Reasons to Buy Our Software', can be virtually irresistible. The circumstances beg for thievery and how many thieves do we per square foot in the world????

Then why would a wizened, war hardened gambling veteran like me make a $100 deposit to a suspect casino like Lucky 18? They gave me free money to play with, I won and they told me that there was a rule in existence that wins from free chips could not be paid until a $100 deposit was made….and they had previously paid me $50…I thought I was on safe ground…but there is no safe ground.

Also, I believe I stated that I had participated in Winners Online forum back in 2003/04. It is hard for me to depict the absolute power of that site within the gambling industry. Not only could Winners Online get things done but their were portal owners and well respected (players well known throughout the online gaming industry) players that could rectify problems. I suspect that many of those entities went south because of the inability to regulate online gaming. Without question, that is why the U.S. voted to outlaw online gaming within our borders.

 

When online gambling becomes legal within the U.S. (if ever) you can bet that intense, meticulous regulation of the industry  (just as is done in Nevada) will take place and maybe, just maybe …that same form of regulation will spread to casinos registered off shore. We can hope…

I understand what CasinoDeal is working toward and I wish them luck…but in view of their opponent, they are a bit of a toothless tiger at this point….thanks again for the reply….

8:10 am
December 3, 2023


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Lucky 18 casino was a nice casino but it is not functioning properly these days. I have also tried many times to access this casino site but failed.



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